Thanks everyone! thought I'd let you see who some of the lucky U.S Borders Collies get to meet overnight sometimes when they come to Canada, it's a very short visit because I am over my limit with amount of dogs allowed unfortunately! Knox came to me as a 4.5 unruly wild pup and of course I was going to foster temporarily until he had some manners! He was suppose to be BC mix with shepherd and when he was smaller I thought maybe he was but now no I don't think so? He is now 80 pounds and sometimes people see retriever and collie or Borzoi as he has crimped hair on his ears and feet? He does herd the other dogs away from me for attention and he is ball crazy but that's the only Bc he has in him!! LOL So I really not sure what he is but I ended up putting so much time into him and when someone applied I decided to keep him!